Pellucid Wombat
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« on: May 05, 2011, 10:51:11 AM » |
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So I'm loving the peg & leash system for holding my #4-6 C4s closed while climbing. I'm tempted to leave the pegs in the cams to hold them closed after use, but I wasn't sure if this is bad for the cams. I guess what I'm wondering is if the springs would be damaged/loosened by storing the cams retracted for long periods of time, or if they are still enough in the elastic range of deformation that this is a moot point.
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RussWalling
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 02:36:11 PM » |
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Ummmmm...... what?
Store your cams with no spring tension would probably be best.
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Pellucid Wombat
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 11:04:34 AM » |
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Dang. I'll need a bigger gear box for storage then  |
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RussWalling
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 12:06:35 PM » |
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Dang. I'll need a bigger gear box for storage then Get stronger, sell half your cams, problem solved! Got any pics of how you are doing it? Scuffy is a pin back guy I think. Maybe he will show up with some wisdom. |
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Jaybro
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011, 04:01:36 AM » |
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The only time you want the pin thing is for storage! At least in the car or pack. Obviously you're not going to have them pinned on lead!
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wideload
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2011, 08:29:19 PM » |
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Perfect use for that #4 Big Bro...  |
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Jaybro
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2011, 03:34:10 AM » |
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Every $200+ cam needs a $100+ pin!
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RussWalling
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 07:35:06 AM » |
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CHRIST! How big is that thing??
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scuffy b
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 10:59:08 AM » |
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I've never heard of a problem with the springs regardless of storage strategy.
When I have used pins (tent pegs) it has been OK using them with the gear
on the rack (you know, while leading). Give the unit a squeeze and the pin
falls right out.
You have to run the pin through the big holes in the lobes. If you run it through
the little round holes it doesn't fall out so easily. Then you might think the pin is
not a good idea.
Mine have all come undone by now, because I only set them up once, and my method
was slipshod. A little tape would have helped.
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wideload
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2011, 06:00:05 AM » |
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Russ:
a) that's what she said.
b) 12" dangling
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Pellucid Wombat
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 04:34:58 PM » |
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I'll put up some pictures later, but what I've done is this:
1. Fashion a cam peg by cutting a fat dowel (sized for tightest fit in lobe holes while still clearing the cam stem easily enough). The dowel is cut just a little longer than the cam head is wide. One end of the peg has a hole drilled through it for the keeper leash.
2. Tie accessory cord to the cam stem near the axle (flares & features on the stem seem to keep this from slipping down), and thread the cord through the hole in the dowel & tie a small knot on the end to keep it from coming off. The leash is just long enough to make it easy to reinsert the peg, but short enough to keep it from getting in the way or tangeled on other stuff. Since the leash is short and close to the cam lobes, I haven't had a problem with it getting caught by other gear on the harness (it's a different story when transporting gear in a bag though, but still not too bad to untangle).
3. For C4 Cams, slide the peg through the outermost hole of all for cam lobes. This seems useful for sizes #4-6 of the C4s. Also useful for Metolius Medium & Large SuperCams, though for these I fully retract the cam and slide the peg through the innermost holes in the smaller cam lobes, since these back up against the cam axle to keep it from retracting.
4. I lead with the pegs in. I merely pull the trigger while tipping the cam, or give it a little shake - or I just yank the peg out by the leash while the cam is still on my harness. All are easy to do one handed and the feeling of 'deployment' of the lobes is pretty gratifying :-)
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Pellucid Wombat
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2011, 11:51:09 PM » |
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Wideload - awesome cam & use of the Big Bro As for the pictures of what I'm using, here they are:  Cams with pegs stored (they actually stay in the trigger pretty well)  Cams with pegs "activated" to hold the lobes closed.  The Metolius Supercam as I have used the peg to hold it closed (I lost the last peg & haven't replaced it) I found these pegs to be useful for cams equivalent to a #4 C4 and up. |
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excap
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 10:03:15 PM » |
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I can dig it.  Good bite on that wood peg, eh? |
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Pellucid Wombat
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2011, 04:27:25 PM » |
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Yep, both in the cam heads and in the trigger, but easy enough to pull out w/ the leash.
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